January 23, 2004

Cipher in my sleep, Cipher in my kitchen

After day three of recording, we are getting to the place where the songs are moving from the level of something I would only play for the person who loves me most in the world to yelling "THIS IS GENIUS SHIT!" last night after Roby Newton (late of local at-risk-youth-band - Milemarker) GROWLED and STUNG her way through Bright Eyes' answer-song to Kitty Wells hit "You Don't Have to Say You Love Me" -- "Lover I Don't Have to Love Me". Plus Roby changed the "bad actors" to "bad singers", and then tore the shit apart like Siegried and Roy's little tiger friend. Sort of Brody Dalle meets Edith Piaf, live from the Paris city sewer. Ryan was the hype man, and aptly pointed out that Bright Eyes and Atmosphere are essentially the same man, at least lyrically.

Our friend Cale brought his vibraphone over, and we played Leather and Lace, the Stevie Nicks/Don Henley tune together on it, with Latham precariously holding the microphone, taped to a mop-handle, dangling above us -- Cale and I played and it was like being in love, it sounded so perfect and un-detailable, it made us both giddy.

Shortly there after, Ryan and Julianne and I got into a debate that last 1 hour and 15 minutes about an Eminem song which is like "Kim" part 2. Ryan argued for it as impactful to dialogue on the topic of abuse as well as thats what good art is, it disgusts you and moves you, makes you think, horrifies you etc -- and that Tobey Keith is a thousand times worse because it doesn't make you think about anything, and you just swallow it whole. Julianne and I both argued the Dworkinest platform that this whole world perpetuates violence against women culturally, that further endorsement of rape culture, is sad, bad and de/repressing, and that perpetuating that discomfort is harmful to women -- and it's not discomforting not in the "hey thats great art" kind of way. Ryan argued that the Bright Eyes song is a similar brand of fucked up, as well as Atmosphere.

Then I had a dream last night. I dreamt that I went to an Atmosphere show and we were supposed to have a discussion, me and him, about his lyrics about women - he wanted some feminist ciphering in the backstage. I was into it, but he kept trying to uh, turn it into a date and take it to the boneyard. I kept trying to literally hide from other people around, because I knew that hanging around with him backstage, people would naturally assume that I was there to get fucked, and I knew that even if I explained, no one believes that I was there for some HOTT DIALOGUE about Sean "Slug" Daley's faux-feminist posturing in his lyrics and his interaction, via song, with girls of the world, . In the dream he kept petting my hair and trying to kiss me (he was a bad kisser, awkward, drooley and thought he was giving me the hottest time of my young life), and I was so bummed, but I half put up with it, disgusted with both him and my self, in hopes of that maybe I could still get what I wanted with the situation. In the dream, I was almost crying.

Posted by Jessica at January 23, 2004 11:40 AM | TrackBack
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So funny. I interviewed Sean a few years ago, accompanied by a friend of mine who happened to be a hot Australian (who I lusted after in a clumsy post-teenage way, but we'll leave that alone). Sluggo hit on her by talking about how he liked to kidnap hookers and throw them in the trunk of his car. A little later, the two of us interviewed Sage Francis, and those guys actually ended up hooking up (though she's like twelve years younger than him). Sole once mentioned that he'd never had a real girlfriend until well after "Bottle of Humans" dropped.

What is with these guys (and by these guys I include myself) and women? All of us talented motherfuckers, and not a half-decent bit of game between us. Or is "not having game" the new "having game"? In fairness, as of two years ago Sole was with a drop-dead Persian, so maybe not having game is just the same old game. Still, the air of desperation is sometimes just too well-cultivated.

Posted by: David at January 23, 2004 03:57 PM

Saw Atmosphere on the telly last night and it was the first time I had heard/seen him and can't for the life of me figure out what the big deal is. So it is now totally safe for white hipsters to embrace hip hop now? I got waves of chills of embarrassment throughout the entire performance. Give me Three Six Mafia any day over this contrived (yes, in the same vein as Conor Oberst), pastuerized bullshit.

Posted by: peterlaughner at January 24, 2004 03:40 PM

To each their own. But before Jay has an excuse to record another fucking record, I should clarify that Slug is (apparently) not "white", and he'd probably take issue with the Hipster thing too.

Posted by: David at January 26, 2004 11:50 AM

I am not as old as you think, kiddo.

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